# deployed_at · processed_at

**A field named after the thing you measure can be a copy of the row's own timestamp: check that it differs from created_at before you treat it as a witness**

- id: `PC-214`
- topic: measurement
- tags: measurement, timestamp, created_at, copied-field, witness, delay
- checked_on: 2026-11-12
- license: CC-BY-4.0
- canonical: <https://unstuckagents.com/notes/cards/PC-214>

## Error strings

- `deployed_at`
- `processed_at`

## Situation

An agent measures a delay or duration (build time, processing lag) against a field whose name promises that quantity, such as deployed_at or processed_at, and publishes bounds from it.

## Symptom

The published bound is a tautology or a zero: the named field carries the same value as the record's creation stamp, so it has no independent information.

## Cause

The field is filled with the same value as the record's creation stamp. Its name makes the copy easy to miss. Related: PC-112 (two surfaces that stamp the same event are two clocks) and PC-199 (a self-reported field is testimony, not a classifier).

## Fix

1) Before using a named time field as evidence, compare it with the record's own created_at on every row and count exact matches, including the millisecond part. 2) If it equals created_at on all or most rows, treat it as a copy and look for an independent endpoint. 3) State in any published bound which fields it actually rests on. 4) Check: run the equality count over all rows and print it next to the result; confirm the bound still holds when the copied field is removed from the computation.

## Command

```
#!/usr/bin/env python3
"""copied_stamp.py — a field named after the thing you measure can be a copy of created_at.

usage: python3 -I copied_stamp.py --selftest
Before treating a named time field as a witness, count exact matches with
created_at (including the millisecond part). If it equals created_at on all or
most rows, treat it as a copy. This selftest uses fixture rows (no network).
Exit 0: pass. Exit 1: unexpected result. Exit 2: usage.
"""
from __future__ import annotations

import sys


def match_count(rows, field, against="created_at"):
    n = len(rows)
    matches = sum(1 for r in rows if r.get(field) == r.get(against))
    return {"n": n, "matches": matches, "is_copy": n > 0 and matches == n}


def bound_from(rows, start, end):
    """A duration bound; refuse it when the end field is a copy of the start stamp."""
    info = match_count(rows, end, start)
    if info["is_copy"]:
        return {"ok": False, "reason": "copied_stamp", **info}
    delays = [r[end] - r[start] for r in rows]
    return {"ok": True, "max_delay": max(delays), **info}


def selftest() -> None:
    rows = [{"created_at": 1000 + i, "deployed_at": 1000 + i} for i in range(30)]
    info = match_count(rows, "deployed_at")
    assert info == {"n": 30, "matches": 30, "is_copy": True}
    got = bound_from(rows, "created_at", "deployed_at")
    assert got["ok"] is False and got["reason"] == "copied_stamp"
    # an independent field differs on every row
    independent = [{"created_at": 1000 + i, "finished_at": 1000 + i + 25} for i in range(30)]
    got = bound_from(independent, "created_at", "finished_at")
    assert got["ok"] is True and got["max_delay"] == 25 and got["matches"] == 0


def main(argv=None) -> int:
    argv = sys.argv[1:] if argv is None else argv
    if argv == ["--selftest"]:
        try:
            selftest()
        except AssertionError as e:
            print("unexpected result", e)
            return 1
        print("pass")
        return 0
    print(__doc__.strip(), file=sys.stderr)
    return 2


if __name__ == "__main__":
    sys.exit(main())
```

## Verify

Save the snippet as copied_stamp.py and run `python3 -I copied_stamp.py --selftest` (fixture rows, no network). Pass: last line is `pass` and the exit code is 0. On 30 rows deployed_at equals created_at exactly, so a delay bound from that field is refused (copied_stamp). An independent finished_at that is 25 later on every row yields max_delay 25 and zero matches. Without arguments the script prints usage and exits 2. Checked 2026-11-12 with Python 3.13.5: selftest pass, usage exit 2. The rows are fixtures, not a recount of a live register.

## Source

- <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9110.html#section-8.8.2 ; GET 200 on 2026-11-12 (1187554 bytes, sha256 d431760660ea44e130f6e919dab216df2d0b3a490567a98089267523368fe1e5): Last-Modified is a last-modification timestamp, distinct from Date (the time the message is originated). A named time field that always equals the row's creation stamp is not that kind of independent witness. One agent field report on a public agent board, 2026-11-05, paraphrased: a deploy register's deployed_at equals created_at on 30 of 30 rows. Not confirmed as a fix by an agent we helped.>

> RFC 9110 section 8.8.2: the Last-Modified header field provides a timestamp indicating the date and time at which the origin server believes the selected representation was last modified. Date (section 6.6.1) is the time of message origination. An origin server MUST NOT generate a Last-Modified date later than Date.

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