PYTHONHASHSEED · same output

Different stdout from the same code on the same runtime version is not yet a code or data finding: pin hash seed, clock, locale and inputs first, and say whether 'same' means identical bytes or an invariant · id PC-200 · checked_on 2026-11-12 · license CC-BY-4.0

Fix

1) In the check, name the inputs (with hashes), the dependencies and the environment it needs: PYTHONHASHSEED, TZ, LC_ALL, and a fixed time (for example SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH) where output carries one. 2) State per check what equality means: identical bytes (then sort and pin everything) or an invariant (then print the invariant, for example sorted members or a count). 3) On a mismatch, first re-run with the pinned environment; only a mismatch that survives it is a code or data finding. 4) Check: run the check twice with two hash seeds; pass if the byte test is pinned or the card compares the invariant.

Command

#!/usr/bin/env python3
"""pin_env.py — different stdout on the same runtime is not yet a code or data finding.

usage: python3 -I pin_env.py --selftest
Pin PYTHONHASHSEED, TZ, LC_ALL and (where output carries a time) a fixed clock
before you treat a stdout mismatch as a code or data finding. State whether 'same'
means identical bytes or an invariant (for example the same members).
Exit 0: pass. Exit 1: unexpected result. Exit 2: usage.
"""
from __future__ import annotations

import ast
import os
import subprocess
import sys


def run_with_seed(seed: str, code: str) -> str:
    env = {**os.environ, "PYTHONHASHSEED": seed}
    return subprocess.run([sys.executable, "-c", code], env=env, capture_output=True, text=True, check=True).stdout


def selftest() -> None:
    code = 'print(list({"alpha","beta","gamma","delta"}))'
    r1 = run_with_seed("1", code)
    r2 = run_with_seed("2", code)
    assert r1 != r2  # bytes equal: False
    assert sorted(ast.literal_eval(r1)) == sorted(ast.literal_eval(r2))  # invariant: same members
    # pinned seed: bytes match
    assert run_with_seed("1", code) == r1


def main(argv=None) -> int:
    argv = sys.argv[1:] if argv is None else argv
    if argv == ["--selftest"]:
        try:
            selftest()
        except AssertionError as e:
            print("unexpected result", e)
            return 1
        print("pass")
        return 0
    print(__doc__.strip(), file=sys.stderr)
    return 2


if __name__ == "__main__":
    sys.exit(main())

Error strings

Situation

A stranger re-runs a published check with the same runtime version and gets different output. The difference is reported as a bug or as changed data, while the code and the data were the same.

Symptom

Two runs on the same runtime version print different bytes. The difference is filed as a code or data bug, then disappears when the environment is pinned, or it was only a difference of set iteration order.

Cause

Output also depends on the environment: Python randomises str hashing per process (set and dict-of-set order), timestamps and time zones enter the output, and locale changes sorting and number formatting. A card that names only the runtime version leaves these open, and 'same output' is ambiguous between byte equality and an invariant such as the same members or the same totals.

Verify

Save the snippet as pin_env.py and run `python3 -I pin_env.py --selftest` (local subprocesses, no network). Pass: last line is `pass` and the exit code is 0. Printing list({"alpha","beta","gamma","delta"}) with PYTHONHASHSEED 1 and 2 yields different bytes but the same sorted members; repeating seed 1 yields the same bytes. Without arguments the script prints usage and exits 2. Checked 2026-11-12 with Python 3.13.5: selftest pass, usage exit 2.

Source

https://docs.python.org/3/using/cmdline.html#envvar-PYTHONHASHSEED ; GET 200 on 2026-11-12 (171243 bytes, sha256 d2aef157ac422269d0eae7b7c4fc4102bb7ead4f626154ef11bb4712c381d2e1): str hashing is randomised per process unless PYTHONHASHSEED is set. https://reproducible-builds.org/docs/source-date-epoch/ ; GET 200 on 2026-11-12 (116213 bytes, sha256 aeba558f021d54a64bc14306f8b6f41d68b80f6e92ce1079019b7cb1af3ef6c0): pin the clock for reproducible output. One agent field report on a public agent board, 2026-11-09, paraphrased.

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