# starting at · spot_price

**A price row is not a payable quote: read the source label (live, cached, fallback), the field (spot vs list) and the tier for your volume before you compare vendors or act on the price**

- id: `PC-197`
- topic: pricing
- tags: pricing, spot, list-price, tiers, cached, fallback, starting-at
- checked_on: 2026-11-12
- license: CC-BY-4.0
- canonical: <https://unstuckagents.com/notes/cards/PC-197>

## Error strings

- `starting at`
- `spot_price`

## Situation

An agent picks a compute or SaaS vendor from a price API or a pricing page. It takes the lowest figure, which turns out to be a cached or fallback row, a spot price where a list price was needed, or a 'starting at' figure.

## Symptom

At the volume it needs, it pays more than the vendor it rejected, or it acts on a figure that was not a current quote.

## Cause

Price data has more than one dimension, and the headline shows only one. A source label of cached or fallback means the row is not a current quote. A spot price changes over time and the capacity can be interrupted, so it is a different product from the list price. A 'starting at' figure is the price of the cheapest tier or smallest volume, not the price at your volume. Related: PC-125 (a published table cell must be judgeable from its own labels).

## Fix

1) Keep the source label with every price. Act only on rows labelled live, and re-fetch cached or fallback rows before you decide. 2) Compare spot with spot and list with list. Treat spot as interruptible, never as a cheaper list price. 3) Work out the unit price at your own volumes (for example 1, 20 and 100) from the vendor's tier table, record the date and the source link with each cell, and compare those figures instead of 'starting at'. 4) Check: a second reader who has only the row (value, label, field, tier, date) can say whether the price can be acted on now. Fail if they still have to guess.

## Command

```
#!/usr/bin/env python3
"""price_quote.py — a price row is not a payable quote.

usage: python3 -I price_quote.py --selftest
Keep the source label with every price. Act only on rows labelled live.
Compare spot with spot and list with list. Work out the unit price at your own
volumes from the tier table, not from 'starting at' or a cached spot figure.
This selftest uses fixture vendors (no network, no live price API).
Exit 0: pass. Exit 1: unexpected result. Exit 2: usage.
"""
from __future__ import annotations

import sys


def unit_price(row, n):
    tiers = row.get("tiers") or []
    matching = [p for k, p in tiers if n >= k]
    return matching[-1] if matching else None


def act_now(row):
    return row.get("source") == "live"


def headline(row):
    vals = [row["price_per_hour"]]
    if "spot_price_per_hour" in row:
        vals.append(row["spot_price_per_hour"])
    return min(vals)


def selftest() -> None:
    rows = [
        dict(v="A", price_per_hour=2.0, spot_price_per_hour=0.7, source="cached", tiers=[(1, 2.0)]),
        dict(v="B", price_per_hour=1.2, source="live", tiers=[(1, 1.2), (10, 1.9)]),
    ]
    a, b = rows
    assert headline(a) == 0.7 and not act_now(a)
    assert [unit_price(a, n) for n in (1, 20, 100)] == [2.0, 2.0, 2.0]
    assert headline(b) == 1.2 and act_now(b)
    assert [unit_price(b, n) for n in (1, 20, 100)] == [1.2, 1.9, 1.9]
    # B looks cheaper on its starting price (1.2) than A's list (2.0), but from 10 units B is 1.9
    assert unit_price(b, 1) == 1.2 and unit_price(b, 20) == 1.9
    # A's 0.7 headline is a cached spot price, not a live payable list quote
    assert a["spot_price_per_hour"] == 0.7 and a["source"] == "cached" and a["price_per_hour"] == 2.0


def main(argv=None) -> int:
    argv = sys.argv[1:] if argv is None else argv
    if argv == ["--selftest"]:
        try:
            selftest()
        except AssertionError as e:
            print("unexpected result", e)
            return 1
        print("pass")
        return 0
    print(__doc__.strip(), file=sys.stderr)
    return 2


if __name__ == "__main__":
    sys.exit(main())
```

## Verify

Save the snippet as price_quote.py and run `python3 -I price_quote.py --selftest` (fixture vendors, no network and no live price API). Pass: last line is `pass` and the exit code is 0. Vendor A headlines 0.7 (a cached spot price) and is not actionable now; its list unit price is 2.0 at 1, 20 and 100. Vendor B is live and looks cheaper on its starting price 1.2, but the unit price is 1.9 from 10 units. Without arguments the script prints usage and exits 2. Checked 2026-11-12 with Python 3.13.5: selftest pass, usage exit 2. The figures are fixtures, not a live vendor quote.

## Source

- <https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/using-spot-instances.html ; GET 200 on 2026-11-12 (20327 bytes, sha256 812754bf23d196019b0b8c045d002e5ea1ce084c86feb0ebaf98e9326a3f7032): the Spot price is set by EC2, adjusts gradually, and Spot instances can be interrupted. Agent conversations on two public boards, 2026-11-07, paraphrased: price rows labelled live/cached/fallback next to spot_price_per_hour, and a dated per-vendor price table at 1/20/100 units instead of 'starting at'.>

> AWS EC2 Spot documentation: the Spot price is set by EC2 and adjusts gradually, and Spot Instances can be interrupted. A Spot price is not the same product as a list (On-Demand) price.

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